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Alen
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Pridružen/-a: 07.05. 2010, 04:59
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Men je video res kul. Fajn, da so našl hot bejbo, ki je poleg tega še totalno plesno talentirana.
Na nov mix se počaasi privajam, še posebi mi je všeč, ker ni spoken bridga.
Men bi blo perfect, da bi bla album verzija ampak namest spoken bridga enako kot v spotu ta del.
Bi blo kr fajn, da pohitijo in dajo čimprej na itunes HT single, ker zgubljajo prodajo, video je že gor, promocija že teče.
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Video je enostavno slab. Katastrofa...
MJ živ tega nikoli nebi dopustil.
KING OF POP, za božjo voljo. Spot pa je kot za neko Glee reklamo ali Flashdance.
Poceni, poceni, poceni narejeno. Sramota. Da to Estate dopušča ( če ma sploh kako besedo zraven ) je bedarija. MJ je izumitelj zanimivih, interesantnih, zabavnih , čarobnih videospotov.
To sedaj pa je dobesedno bljak. To ni Lady Gaga prosneto delo. To je zapuščina nekoga, ki je nekaj naredil na svetu. Da ne govorim o remiksu!!! Gdo pri zdravi pameti,da za promocijo remix pesem za spodbujanje prodaje!!! Po petem videospotu bi si lahko taki promo-spodrslaj privoščili...Ampak sedaj pa je bedarija od bedarije. Dobro ime MJ uničujejo z takim amaterskim delom....
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Pridružen/-a: 30.09. 2009, 06:44
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ja kaksen je pa sedaj to videospot!?!
ojojojojojojoooooooooooooooojojojejejejejeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeej........
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Men je tadrug del spota ušeč k densajo...pa punca res dobr pleše........Kaj bi pa Michael naredu si lohk pa sam mislmo....
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Alen
Invincible
Pridružen/-a: 07.05. 2010, 04:59
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A Very Interesting Article by Joe Vogel about the History of
Michael''s song Hollywood Tonight and the video created for it
Exclusive: Inside Michael Jackson’s “Hollywood”
Posted: March 14, 2011 by Joe Vogel
http://joevogel.wordpress.com/
Michael Jackson was so impressed with dancer, Sofia Boutella — star of the late icon’s new music video for “Hollywood Tonight” — he was ready to offer her the opportunity of a lifetime: the chance to dance alongside him on his This Is It concert series at the O2 Arena in London. Unfortunately, she was still under contract for Madonna’s Confessions Tour at the time and couldn’t get out of it. Seeing how disappointed Boutella was, Jackson turned to a couple of his collaborators and said: “I used to date Madonna. I should call her.”
While Boutella ultimately missed out on This Is It, she pays admirable homage to the King of Pop in his most recent posthumous video, which paints the story of a young, ambitious girl trying to make it in Hollywood without being swallowed by its trappings and illusions. It’s a well-worn tale, but is carried out tastefully by director, Wayne Isham, and sparked by the infectious energy and talent of Boutella. The video also reminds — along with recent MJ tributes on American Idol and Glee — how profound Jackson’s influence continues to be on new generations (many of whom only “discovered” him after his tragic death in 2009).
“Hollywood Tonight” is the second single to be released from Jackson’s posthumous album, MICHAEL
(“Behind the Mask” is the alternate single for several countries, including the United States).
The song has a long and winding history. Jackson first put down a sketch of the lyrics in 1999 while staying at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Soon after, he began working out the music with longtime friend and collaborator, Brad Buxer (who co-wrote the song). The song traveled with them from Los Angeles to New York, Miami to Neverland, during the early Invincible sessions. Jackson and Buxer were pumping out some outstanding material around this time, including songs like “Beautiful Girl,” “The Way You Love Me,” “Speechless,” “The Lost Children,” “Shut Up and Dance” (a great dance track Jackson and Buxer worked on with Michael Prince and Eric Kirkland with echoes of Stevie Wonder and MJ circa Bad which, unfortunately, doesn’t have complete vocals) and “I Was the Loser” (a nice, melodic mid-tempo tune about lost love that is mostly finished), among others. A couple of years earlier Jackson and Buxer had also worked on artistic standouts like “Morphine” and “In the Back.”
Jackson loved parts of “Hollywood”–the opening Gregorian chant (his idea), the “westbound, greyhound” harmonies, the whistling in the outro–but stopped working on it once producer Rodney Jerkins came on board for Invincible.
Over the next ten years, however, he returned to the track numerous times. For the bass line, he was searching for something similar to “Billie Jean,” but distinct. “Do smooth muted bass on ‘Hollywood,’” he indicated in one note. His early demos feature two layered bass lines (Michael Prince added the “Billie Jean”-esque kick and snare in the last mix MJ requested). Jackson and Brad Buxer continued tinkering with it in Las Vegas in 2007. For a while, he liked the idea of ending with the sound of a bus leaving or arriving. Yet he ultimately decided to conclude with the whistling, since the juxtaposition was a bit awkward.
In October 2008, Jackson, now living in Los Angeles, asked recording engineer Michael Prince to put the latest mix of “Hollywood” on CD so he could listen to it and see what might be improved. Sadly, he never got around to working on it again.
The new single of “Hollywood” is truer to this last version than the album cut. Of course, Jackson had intended to keep working on it, which is why his estate and Sony originally brought in two of Jackson’s close collaborators, Theron Feemster (aka Neff-U) and Teddy Riley, to try to finish it. Feemster had the first crack and came up with some solid mixes; yet Sony didn’t feel it was quite right and subsequently gave Teddy Riley a shot. Riley’s production, which retained much of Michael and Brad’s demo (including the intro and outro), elements of Feemster’s mix (including the fantastically funky guitar riff and horns), and added a bit more punch, became the album version.
After it was released, however, many fans voiced concerns about a) the over-processed vocals, and b) the lengthy spoken bridge. Jackson had, in fact, written lyrics for his own bridge, which were much darker than Riley’s. Jackson’s bridge reads:
She doesn’t even have a ticket
She doesn’t even have a way back home
She’s lost and she’s alone
There’s no place for her to go
She is young and she is cold
Just like her father told her so
While Jackson’s version highlights the tragedy and uncertainty of a dream deferred, Teddy Riley’s bridge opted for a more positive and tidy resolution. “With the bridge we kind of made her succeed,” Riley explained. “[She] completed her mission.”
Riley would have undoubtedly used Jackson’s version had their been vocals for it. Unfortunately, they were never recorded. With the new single, however, Sony decided to cut the spoken part completely and showcase instead some of the heightening drama and tension Jackson intended for this section. They used his beatboxing, his idea of swelling horns and strings, and his operatic vocal (pulled from a tape left running during a recording session in a hotel room). In addition to the bridge, the vocals on the new single are left un-processed and the production is scaled back. The result is a single that has a rawer, funkier, but less finished feel than the album version.
“Hollywood Tonight,” then, has gone through many incarnations: the several different demos Jackson recorded with Brad Buxer and Michael Prince, from 1999 to 2008; the two versions Theron Feemster worked on following Jackson’s death (one of which is reportedly quite impressive); the polished album version completed by Teddy Riley; and, of course, the new single. All are necessarily approximations to what Jackson would have ultimately put out in finished form.
That’s the nature of posthumous releases. They will always be imperfect and they will always generate fierce debate.
But for most music lovers, we will take whatever new Michael Jackson we can get, whether demos, new mixes or remixes. “Hollywood Tonight” could be gathering dust in a vault; instead, it has people dancing in the streets.
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Zvezdana
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Pridružen/-a: 02.09. 2010, 15:55
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Meni je video prav simpatičen, saj prikazuje ravno to, kako Michaelova glasba znova navdušuje tudi mlado generacijo, kar je dandanes čista resnica. Še bolj sem zadovoljna, da so dali priložnost temu dekletu, ki jo je tudi Michael hotel vključiti v svoje nastope. Prav vesela sem, da so izbrali prav njo, ki jo je Michael res poznal, jo videl plesati in je bil navdušen nad njo.
Seveda pa, naj naredijo še tako dober video, mislim, da nikoli več ne bomo zadovoljni, presrečni in osupli !!! , kot smo bili ponavadi nekoč ob Michaelovih videih, ker enostavno na video spotih ne bo več našega pravega Michaela, ampak samo še kakšni njegovi bežni, zamegljeni posnetki.
Vam povem, vedno znova se spomnim, kako me je vsak Michaelov novi video osupnil, pri "Earth song" so mi vsakič šli dobesedno mravljinci po telesu, ko sem gledala njegovo interpretacijo pesmi! Še dandanes.
In opazila sem, da tudi naši "domači" otroci gledajo njegove video spote z odprtimi usti!
Michael je zame fenomen, kakršnega v svojem življenju ne bom več videla.
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Pridružen/-a: 28.07. 2008, 23:26
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Se popolnoma strinjam s tabo Zvezdana. Ja nažalost ga ni več med nami in nikoli več ne bomo videli njegovih novih umetnij, ki bi bile sigurno fantastične.
S tem se moramo spoprijazniti in biti zadovoljni, da te nove stvaritve ohranjajo njegovo delo pri življenju. Vsi ti, ki delajo na tem so pretežno njegovi občudovalci in se trudijo po svojih močeh in moramo vedeti, da MJ ne bodo nikoli dosegli, se pa trudijo biti čim boljši. Mj fane je težko navdušiti, ko pa njega ni več. Ostalo pa je njegovo delo, njegovi neverjetni videospoti, njegovo sporočilo, ki pa ga marsikdo ne razume. in tako, kot je omenjeno v dokumentarcu, ki se je vrtel na net tv in sva linke pripela na moj video,hotel je zabavati in SKUŠAL POZDRAVITI TA SVET. Bil je predvsem dober in razumevajoč človek, ki je kljub temu, da je doživljal hudo krivico, ostal do konca razumevajoč in dober in mislim, da je imel neverjetno rad svoje fane in v njih je polagal upanje, da mu pomagajo ta svet narediti boljši, ker le z njimi bi mu to lahko vsaj delno to uspelo. 
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Alen
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Pridružen/-a: 07.05. 2010, 04:59
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Tudi js se popolnoma strinjam z Zvezdano. Video mi je zelo v redu. Tole, da so dal noter to punco, ki jo je Michael na vsak način želel imet ob sebi pri TII, ampak žal ni mogla, ker je mela pogodbo z Madonno je perfektno, zato si ne morem predstavljat, da bi Michael rekel ni mi všeč ta spot.
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MJDolores
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Pridružen/-a: 10.01. 2010, 18:50
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Meni je videospot všeč,malo manj pa sem navdušena nad komadom.Raje bi videla,da bi ostalo pri album verziji,vendar zdaj je kar je.Je pa moje osebno mnenje,da se videov,ki niso Michaelovi sploh ne bi smelo izdajat,ker to enostavno ni Michael in se mi ne zdi prav.
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tempera
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Pridružen/-a: 22.12. 2005, 17:49
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samo njegovi vokli so, ostalo nic (O) ni njegovega...
ni mi vsec tudi zato ker se BJ uprablja samo za zasluzek ker je to zapisano v zgodovino in je eden najbolj predvajanih komadov......in vsakic ko se HT zavrti je se tu dobicek za beat v ozadju... vse je tako zal izracunano...pa zopet neki mlde ufuravajo ko sploh kao ljubezn , mladi pa to ko jih vecina ne ve kaj so mu delali. ne mislim na nikogar, sam splosno...
njegovo zgodovino pa bojo itak skoz prikazoval in se na to "zgovarjal" tko da so samo neki izsecki not iz preteklosti..neki iz Jam sm vidu pato...
katastrofa je tole zame in zopet totaln podn, neki podobnega kot HMH z akonom.
ceprav stiklc mi jekr hud, in sm resno razmislu da ga nabavim kot koncno notranjo pomiritev in spoprijem da g ni.....pa ne bo slo se neki casa
tud design mi je bedn in krneki (kao sunset, lights, neke zvezde pata baletni gib), ceprav dost bols kot 1. singl, samo najprepoznavnejse da se cim bolj proda in prepozna, nekak brez repa in glave in duse tako kot celoten album in vseskup after 2009...
tako kot je nekdo zgoraj omenu da se nekatere ne bo se dolgo dalo prepricat in pozabit na vseskupaj.....
tako sem pac naravnan v naravi
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| 15 Mar 2011 19:49 |
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tempera
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Pridružen/-a: 22.12. 2005, 17:49
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skratka tisto z mladimi, hotel sem povedati, da deluje zopet kot pesek v oci, tko kot pri prejsnjem spotu...
otroci in mladina (sj toje prav) ampak zaradi te ljubezni do mladine so ga hotli unicit ter mu skrajsali life, in na koncu tudi so, "ga unicili - ubili"
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Thomas
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Pridružen/-a: 30.10. 2009, 20:38
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Moram dodati svojih 50 centov:
..., torej mislim, da se velik del fanov strinja s tem, da je potrebno Michaelovo Legacy ohranjati. Če temu ni tako, lahko sklepamo, da je Michael zaman živel, zaman umrl, zaman obstajal.
Med vsemi tistimi, ki se zavzemajo za ohranjanje njegove Legacy, recimo tej skupini večina, je na primer polovica takšnih, ki si prizadevajo za ohranjanje njegove pre-25/6-Legacy, medtem ko jim posthumna karijera ni pomembna. No, nekje polovica nas je pa takšnih, ki jim je Michaelovo neizdano delo, s katerim se je navsezadnje ukvarjal zadnjih 10 let svojega življenja in pa deloma tudi leta prej, saj obstaja veliko neizdanih draguljev iz njegovih komercialno aktivnih let.
Tisti, ki jim to ni pomembno, pač imajo svoje razloge, boh pomahaj, ne bom nikogar prepričeval.
Tisti, ki pa bi zelo radi videli, da Michael tudi posthumno takorekoč drži žezlo pokonci, pa bomo z veseljem in (čeprav zelo grenko) radostjo spremljali njegove izide, ki pa bodo žal v rokah 3. osebe in ne Michaela. V primeru nekega izida pa bomo tisti, ki spadamo v omenjeno skupino, verjetno radi videli, da bi Michaelovo ime (Michael sam od tega žal ne bo imel ničesar!) doseglo velike uspehe, kolikor je to pač mogoče brez promocije iz strani artista. No, ta 3. oseba je pač zadolžena za to, da se naredi čimveč za čimboljši rezultat.
Medtem ko sem strogo proti in ne podpiram kakršnegakoli spreminjanja njegovih pesmi/vokalov/ritmov/raznih dodatkov v dokončanih skladbah, pa proti snemanju novih spremljevalnih spotov načeloma nimam ničesar. Ne zato, ker bi ob njih užival! Ne zato, ker bi mi vzele sapo! Nikakor ne zato, ker bi me kakorkoli fascinirali ali pa mi odvzeli bolečino ob spominu na tisti katastrofalni četrtkov večer, ki me je za vselej spremenil! Pač pa zato, ker bodo spremljevalni spoti pripomogli k boljšemu uspehu, ergo rasti Legacy.
Snemanje spotov je v nastali situaciji izredno omejeno. Obstaja možnost lepljenja kolažov video posnetkov, ki smo jih videli miljauženkrat, obstaja animirana tehnologija, obstaja varianta HT. Meni osebno je še kar v redu varianta, je pa treba priznati, da to ni Michaelov spot. To je spot Michaelove pesmi! Nosilec tega spota je njegovo ime, ne pa on sam, in to je velika razlika.
Noben spot ne bo več dosegel enakih kriterijev, noben izdelek ne bo zadovoljil vseh fanov. Dejstvo. Tudi vprašanje, ali bi Michael želel isto stvar - tega ni moč reči. Niti zanikati. Možno je, da bi Michael v kasnejših etapah svoje karijere več kreatvne svobode prepuščal drugim osebam - kdo ve.
To ni Michaelov spot. Ta spot služi zgolj in samo promociji izdelka, ki podpira njegovo posthumno karijero. We can embrace it or not.
Je pa to stvar diskusije ter osebnega mnenja, kjer niti ni pravilnega odgovora!
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Got to find a way somehow,
nothing's gonna stop me now,
got to find a way somehow,
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Alen
Invincible
Pridružen/-a: 07.05. 2010, 04:59
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V Koreji je že zuni.
1.Hollywood Tonight (Throwback Mix)
2.Hollywood Tonight (DJ Chuckie Radio Edit)
3.Hollywood Tonight (DJ Chuckie Remix)
4.Hollywood Tonight (Radio Edit)
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Alen
Invincible
Pridružen/-a: 07.05. 2010, 04:59
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MICHAEL JACKSON HITS #1
“HOLLYWOOD TONIGHT” TOPS BILLBOARD DANCE CLUB CHART THIS WEEK
New York, NY – The King of Pop crowns another chart this week as the hit song “Hollywood Tonight” lands at #1 on the Billboard Dance Club Chart. This is Michael Jackson’s eighth #1 Billboard Dance Club hit which puts him on the top of the list for most #1’s by a male artist. “Hollywood Tonight” joins Michael’s other number one dance hits including “Thriller,” “Bad,” “The Way You Make Me Feel,” and “Scream” which was his last #1 from sixteen years ago.
“Hollywood Tonight,” which USA TODAY said, “pulsates with Billy Jean-esque energy,” was written by Michael Jackson and Brad Buxer and the track was produced by Teddy Riley, Michael Jackson with Theron “Neff-U” Feemster as co-producer.
The striking video for the song features the work of award-winning director Wayne Isham, the genius of superstar choreographers Rich and Tone Talauega and stars the undiscovered talent of dancer Sofia Boutella. The clip can be viewed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjGtTUfPcI4&hd=1
MICHAEL, featuring “Hollywood Tonight,” is the unique collection of songs featuring Michael’s performances completed posthumously and released in December by the Michael Jackson Estate and Sony Music. MICHAEL was the #1 global album upon its release in December and has shipped over 3 million units worldwide making it one of the biggest albums of 2010. The album’s success continues to underscore Michael’s importance as a global icon and superstar, transcending cultures and languages.
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